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Author: David Poulsen
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There seems to be issues with the new update?


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> 1.  Reminder about our Code of Conduct (Tails)
> 2.  Re: alpha 4.3 secure boot (intrigeri)
> 3.  Re: Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and overlayfs (alienpup)
> 4.  Re: Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and overlayfs (intrigeri)
> 5.  Re: Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and overlayfs
>     (evasive_stillness)

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> 6. Re: Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and overlayfs (intrigeri)
> 7. [Tails-news] Tails 4.4 is out (Tails - News)
> 8. Re: Buster regression with Nvidia RTX 2070 (#17155) (intrigeri)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 00:00:02 +0000
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> tails-testers@???, tails-ux@???, tails-l10n@???
> Subject: [Tails-testers] Reminder about our Code of Conduct
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> This is an automated reminder.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2020 09:37:57 +0100
> From: intrigeri intrigeri@???
> To: tails-testers@???
> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] alpha 4.3 secure boot
> Message-ID: 87mu908o7u.fsf@manticora
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>


> Hi,
>


> Jeff Jones (2020-02-24):
>


> > ok - so I got a different error message on the mac from the new .img file -
> > see attached screenshots showing the error and my system.
>


> Thank you.
>


> The error dialog reads: "The writer process ended unexpectedly.
> Please try again, and contact the Etcher team if the
> problem persists", followed by a "Retry" button.
>


> Jeff, could you please:
>


> -   Try installing Tails 4.3 with from that Mac.
>     I expect you'll see the same problem.

>


> -   Apply the workaround I'm mentioning below, then try installing the
>     experimental Tails USB image from that Mac.
>     I expect it'll work fine.

>


>     It seems to be a known problem with macOS Catalina (10.15) new
>     security features: https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/2833

>


>     The best workaround seems to be:

>


>


> 1. Go to "System Preferences" ? "Security & Privacy" ? "Privacy".
> 2. Add Etcher to the list of "Full Disk Access" items.
>


>     sajolida, it seems like something we should document, doesn't it?

>


>     Cheers!

>


>


> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2020 19:10:02 +0000
> From: alienpup tailstester@???
> To: intrigeri intrigeri@???, "Tails list for early testers"
>


>     <tails-testers@???>

>


>


> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and
> overlayfs
> Message-ID: 543581e1-4bd0-4c7e-81f5-d4e0d350eef5@www.fastmail.com
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>


> intrigeri (2020-02-22):
>


> > Hi alienpup,
> > thank you for trying it out!
> > alienpup (2019-12-23):
> >


> > > The only Windows 10, secure boot capable system immediately
> > > available failed to boot this image. Seconds into the boot process,
> > > a banner appeared advising "Device Authentication Failed".
> > > [...]
> >


> > Ouch? "interesting"! I've looked this up online and could find
> > no occurrence of this problem.
> > I'd like to make sure I understand when exactly this happens.
> > Am I guessing right that it happens:
> >


> > -   after you've elected to boot from the Tails USB stick
> > -   before you see the GRUB bootloader with the Tails logo in the
> >     background

> >


> >


> > ?
> > Also, how did you install our experimental USB image on this USB stick?
> > It would be interesting to know if Debian boots on this machine, with
> > Secure Boot enabled:
> > https://get.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-gnome+nonfree.iso
> >


> > > The system in question is an HP Spectre laptop. Output of command
> > > lspci -nn is attached.
> >


> > That's a good start. The output of the following commands would help
> > me identify this computer more precisely and look the problem up
> > online:
> > sudo dmidecode -s system-manufacturer
> > sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
> > sudo dmidecode -s system-version
>


> intrigeri,
>


> I just tested the latest secure boot .img and it's boots my Compulab Fitlet desktop (secure boot enabled) without issue. \0/
>


> I intend to test a friend's HP Spectre laptop (win10) mid-week and will report.
>


> regards,
> alienpup
>


>


> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>


> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 08:15:21 +0100
> From: intrigeri intrigeri@???
> To: alienpup tailstester@???, Tails list for early testers
>


>     <tails-testers@???>

>


>


> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and
> overlayfs
> Message-ID: 87zhczgrcm.fsf@manticora
> Content-Type: text/plain
>


> alienpup (2020-03-01):
>


> > I just tested the latest secure boot .img and it's boots my Compulab
> > Fitlet desktop (secure boot enabled) without issue. \0/
>


> Great, thank you!
>


> > I intend to test a friend's HP Spectre laptop (win10) mid-week and will report.
>


> If it's the one that failed last time, please ensure you've seen the
> questions I've asked on February 22 about it :)
> Thanks in advance!
>


> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>


> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 17:15:55 +0000
> From: evasive_stillness evasive_stillness@???
> To: "tails-testers@???" tails-testers@???
> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and
> overlayfs
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> -   whether Secure Boot was enabled on the computer used for the tests
>     MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2017, Two Thunderbolt 3 ports)
>     AKA: MacBookPro14,1 (no T2 chip)

>


> -   which application you used to install this experimental Tails image
>     balenaEtcher 1.5.79

>


> -   from which operating system you installed this experimental Tails image
>     macOS 10.15.3 (19D76) SIP enabled

>


>     So I tried using the latest release (4.3) and could install it to a drive with Etcher, but had the blank screen issue mentioned in bug #17049 when trying to boot from it. Then I got:

>


>     tails-amd64-feature_6560-secure-boot+force-all-tests-4.4-20200229T2121Z-53383fe730+stable@???

>


>     flashed it to my USB drive with Etcher, and was able to successfully boot to the "Welcome to Tails!" dialog, but the keyboard and trackpad didn't work. I was able to get the cursor working by plugging in a Magic Trackpad 2 with a USB-C to Lightning cable, but my attempt at getting an external keyboard working failed.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 10:11:33 +0100
> From: intrigeri intrigeri@???
> To: evasive_stillness evasive_stillness@???, Tails list
>


>     for early testers <tails-testers@???>

>


>


> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] Call for testing: Secure Boot, GRUB, and
> overlayfs
> Message-ID: 87eeu8bi2i.fsf@manticora
> Content-Type: text/plain
>


> Hi,
>


> evasive_stillness via Tails-testers (2020-03-03):
>


> > tails-amd64-feature_6560-secure-boot+force-all-tests-4.4-20200229T2121Z-53383fe730+stable@???
> > flashed it to my USB drive with Etcher, and was able to successfully
> > boot to the "Welcome to Tails!" dialog,
>


> Thank you for confirming that this first blocker (booting Tails at
> all) will be fixed by these changes!
>


> > but the keyboard and trackpad didn't work.
>


> OK, I've reported about this on #13576. There's been work recently in
> Linux upstream to add support for these devices, so I'm hopeful it
> will get fixed at some point. Unfortunately it's mostly out of
> our hands.
>


> Cheers!
>


> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>


> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 10:00:02 -0000
> From: Tails - News tails@???
> To: amnesia-news@???
> Subject: [Tails-testers] [Tails-news] Tails 4.4 is out
> Message-ID: fb886b12-920d-45ba-8118-0184be8fa170@???
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> This release fixes many securityvulnerabilities.You should upgrade as soon as possible.
>


> Changes and upgrades
>


> =====================
>


> - Update Tor Browser to 9.0.6.
> - Update Thunderbird to 68.5.0.
> - Update Linux to 5.4.19. This should improve the support for newer hardware (graphics, Wi-Fi, etc.).
>


> Fixed problems
>


> ===============
>


> - Tentatively fix Wi-Fi interfaces with Realtek RTL8822BE and RTL8822CE chipsets. (#17323)
>


>     If you had a problem with Wi-Fi starting from Tails 4.1, please let usknow whether your problemwas fixed or not.

>


>     For more details, read our
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>


> Known issues
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> =============
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> None specific to this release.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:29:26 +0100
> From: intrigeri intrigeri@???
> To: Tom Watson watsonalges@???, Tails list for early testers
>


>     <tails-testers@???>

>


>


> Subject: Re: [Tails-testers] Buster regression with Nvidia RTX 2070
> (#17155)
> Message-ID: 8736a9r0g9.fsf@manticora
> Content-Type: text/plain
>


> Hi,
>


> intrigeri (2019-10-20):
>


> > Thank you Tom for providing me the info I had asked! I've updated
> > #17155 accordingly.
> > Could you please try:
> > debug nosplash nomodeset
>


> Ping about this?
>


> On https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/issues/17155
> we got conflicting info about this problem :/
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