Sometimes shorter words are better for comprehension, so I prefer "show" to "reveal" unless there are already many instances of "reveal".
Show/hide seem to be very common opposites now.
Tool tips are still a thing, but because of touch screens it is necessary to tap to see them instead of hovering. Many web app UIs implement both interactions if they are also used with a mouse. The (?) icon often signals these.
Susan
> On May 20, 2016, at 3:19 PM, segfault <segfault@???> wrote:
>
> anonym:
>> segfault:
>>> sajolida:
>>>> segfault:
>>>> - I have to click Configure to see the password of the Mumble and give
>>>> it to my users. The same probably applies to other settings of other
>>>> services.
>>>
>>> The server password is of course information that is often needed and
>>> should also be displayed in the status panel. Like I wrote above, I
>>> didn't implement this for strings and ints yet, but will do so if we
>>> decide to keep the status panel.
>>
>> Perhaps it's worth making a special case for passwords, i.e. initially
>> show it as "***" in the status panel, and only show the password after
>> some deliberate action, like a small label saying "Reveal password". Or
>> perhaps just show a "copy password to clipboard" button/label?
>>
>> I also think there should be an option to generate new (safe) passwords
>> in the configuration panel, with some button/label next to the setting.
>
> I like both of these ideas. I already implemented such a button to
> generate a new onion address and I think we could use the same thing for
> the passwords.
>
>>>> I also prefer the shorter labels (at least for "Persistent",
>>>> "Auto-start") which can still have longer labels as tool tips. These
>>>> options will be the same for every service so people will get use to
>>>> them and shorter labels are easier to scan and recognize.
>>>
>>> I think George suggested more descriptive labels, but maybe I overdid
>>> this. Are tool tips still a thing? I don't recall seeing any in GNOME 3
>>> applications. Maybe I just didn't notice.
>>
>> Personally I find GNOME Settings very uninformative because of the lack
>> of a way to get information quickly for each option. I know sajolida
>> will hate me, but IMHO, feel free to diverge from GNOME on this point.
>
> I also find many GNOME applications to uninformative, especially Disks.
> I agree that we should diverge whenever we think GNOME's standard is not
> the right thing for our users.
>
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