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Author: Jacob Appelbaum
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To: The Tails public development discussion list
CC: tor-talk
Subject: Re: [Tails-dev] [tor-talk] secure and simple network time (hack)
intrigeri:
> Hi,
>
> adrelanos wrote (17 Apr 2013 19:33:23 GMT) :
>> Why not build the required features into Tor itself?
>
> (Let's assume this is no rhetorical question.)
>
> My best guess is that nobody had 1. enough interest in this topic; 2.
> the right set of skills; 3. enough free time. In my experience, this
> is a correct answer to most "why not?" questions about wishlist
> tickets in the free software world.


I have a proposal that is half written on the topic. Once I write the
proposal, I will probably build it into Tor if no one else beats me to
it. It will however require a bit of work as we don't want to keep such
time setting capabilities forever, etc.

>
> Please don't refrain yourself from doing as much of the work as you
> can (write a proposal, discuss it, implement it) and from finding
> someone else to do the rest. I, for one, will be very grateful if
> this happens.
>


Sure. Of course.

However - the goal here is to for tlsdate to work everywhere - it will
work anywhere where openssl works and that is even more places than Tor,
sadly. I also want it to be used by groups that are not Tor - even if
tor could set the time in this way, I'd want a way to check that
confirms it. Trust but verify, right?

All the best,
Jacob